BO MTO Phantom
Posted: Tue 19 Jul, 2016 23:00:19
Siirrän keskustelun tänne. Eli jos jollain löytyy enemmän tietoa kyseisestä aseesta niin postatkaa tähän. Kun en mitään airsoft lehtiä tilaa enkä oikein ole perehtynyt kun muutamaan nettisivuun niin tiedon saaminen on välillä haastavaa.
Tästä siis olisi kyse:
http://www.bomanufacture.com/en/produit ... ANTOM-ZERO
http://www.bunnyworkshop.com.hk/news/20 ... echnology/
Aika kovat väitteet valmistajalta mutta näkisin tuossa mahdollisesti hyvän DMR pohjan. Todella kalliin sellaisen mutta jos se on yhtä hiljainen kun on luvattu se voisi olla erittäin kätevä. Tulen seuraamaan aktiivisesti mitä tästä puhutaan. Mahdollisesti jos saan raha asiat kuntoon saatan mennä pikkaisen sekaisin ja tilata tuollaisen.
Selailemalla itseni heidän FB sivuilleen löysin tällaisen Q&A osion:
We owe you more info in English. Gary Wyborn contacted us with some questions that he complied from the community. Here are the answers. We will try our best to repeat this experience as more news come along.
1. "The 350fps (fullauto) and 390fps (semi) seem to be a little low on some games and game areas especially in Czech Republic - is there a way to increase that? Otherwise Players with the MTO have a BIG disadvantage over other playes on those games! We usually play on games with huge differences in FPS Rules - There is different overall limits in AT, CZ, Sweden and Germany and we play in all of them. So I can't buy a gun for every game/rule and country just to have the right settings."
We agree and we are working on that. The key will be to offer the right digital interface in order to adjust to situations, it is not big deal and our system will support such app. We only have to build it in a way that we follow local regulations and cannot be easily hacked. This Part is under development and we already have included all future features capabilities in Gen1
2. "Is it upgradable? Why is this revolutionary, when 1/2 the features of HPA are not able to utilized within this system that costs more than a standard "drop in" from Polarstar and Wolverine?"
The whole project is not to replace HPA or AEG technology but to bring something else with a new gaming experience. It will be much smarter on the long run but it is too early to talk about it. At some point it was much more convenient to watch a DVD than YouTube. MTO is a smart concept that goes beyond pulling a trigger.
3. "Will there be anything at all free to adjust by the customer? Cycle rate, dwell time, burst/semi-only etc?"
Not at the early stage but it is scalable and Gen1 will give access to multiple features as they get ready
4. "Will the nozzles be changeable? like for ACR or SCAR-H? In Germany we need a special "f" marking on aeg's above 0,5 joule"
We will produce rifles for Germany that will meet local regulations
5. "What voltage, amperage, magnetic radiation? I'm thinking these are basically bb firing stun guns lol, how's the possibility of shock?"
No worries. We are so far away from any risk. That's an interesting topic though, so many "good" people will enjoy preventing airsoft gamers from risk cancer by keeping them away from MTO. To aniticipate any rumour, we will provide official testing to prove it safe. The Magnetic power is used to compress air, not as a propellant.
6. "Can it be disassembled, if so, is there a warranty voided? IF it break, who fixes it? Shipping from US to France will be problematic."
The rifle can be disassembled, not the MTO Box. If it breaks, you will be able to ship the box to France. We also plan to have our US operations by the end of 2016.
7. "Will there be MTO workshops in territories other than France? If not, will existing techs be able to be 'MTO certified' in order to carry out maintenance and repairs without voiding any warranties?"
Not in 2016 because we want to first set the first of production with direct contact with users. It is the reason why we do not want to run large production quantities, we set things properly first. We will have "MTO Certified" stores quick in 2017, many BO stores are obviously ready for that.
8. "Why is the single gearbox not buyable like comparable drop-in solutions (f.e. polarstar/wolverine/etc) and self-determined for the customer what he chooses to do with it?"
Why Tesla or BMW make cars? Both companies started by making engines. We have the same ambition in our field. We want to build a new shooting sport experience which includes a complete integration of features. Sure it is a different way than Wolverine or Polarstar, we wish them the best, we have a different project.
9. "What type of battery will be used? Will this be a proprietary battery or will standard lipo's be compatible?"
Today we say Lipo 11,1V but we want to offer a much larger choice. We can do it and it might be possible from Gen1. We will be able to advise on that topic by the end of May 2016.
11. "What are the REAL-WORLD lipo specs nessesary to fullfil the proclaimed one week of everyday gameplay advertised battery life and where is it planned to be located on the gun? (voltage, ampere capacity and especially discharge rate)"
See previous reply. By the end of May 2016, we will more concrete data for Gen1.
12. "How heavy/light will the complete gearbox be compared to regular stock AEG gearboxes?"
Pretty similar to AEG gearbox especially since we added the controlled magnetic nozzle
13. "What maintanance is nessesary after/during the advertised 1.000.000 million cycle guarantee?"
No maintenance needed. No deep sea activities is recommended though. The compression/nozzle block was tested over 3 million cycles (labo stress test). The key will be the electronic side. We take our time to validate each step. Once again, this a 2 years process, we can extend it to an extra 2-3 months if necessary.
14. "Which externals fit? Aeg-/ or Realsteel-parts?"
To make it simple, we used AEG M4 to start with. We have a pretty strong partnerhip with VFC and we agreed upon some of their standards which makes most VFC M4 compatible as we speak. We will also convert all BO rifles. We want to expand conversion to other AEG M4 platform too. Since the pistol grip is empty (no motor), RS parts can be used (adapted to AEG sizes).
Olipa pitkä lista. Aika hyvin vastasi ainakin mun mietteisiin. Tosin vähän epäillyttää tuo GEN1 -> GEN2 puhe.
Tästä siis olisi kyse:
http://www.bomanufacture.com/en/produit ... ANTOM-ZERO
http://www.bunnyworkshop.com.hk/news/20 ... echnology/
Aika kovat väitteet valmistajalta mutta näkisin tuossa mahdollisesti hyvän DMR pohjan. Todella kalliin sellaisen mutta jos se on yhtä hiljainen kun on luvattu se voisi olla erittäin kätevä. Tulen seuraamaan aktiivisesti mitä tästä puhutaan. Mahdollisesti jos saan raha asiat kuntoon saatan mennä pikkaisen sekaisin ja tilata tuollaisen.
Selailemalla itseni heidän FB sivuilleen löysin tällaisen Q&A osion:
We owe you more info in English. Gary Wyborn contacted us with some questions that he complied from the community. Here are the answers. We will try our best to repeat this experience as more news come along.
1. "The 350fps (fullauto) and 390fps (semi) seem to be a little low on some games and game areas especially in Czech Republic - is there a way to increase that? Otherwise Players with the MTO have a BIG disadvantage over other playes on those games! We usually play on games with huge differences in FPS Rules - There is different overall limits in AT, CZ, Sweden and Germany and we play in all of them. So I can't buy a gun for every game/rule and country just to have the right settings."
We agree and we are working on that. The key will be to offer the right digital interface in order to adjust to situations, it is not big deal and our system will support such app. We only have to build it in a way that we follow local regulations and cannot be easily hacked. This Part is under development and we already have included all future features capabilities in Gen1
2. "Is it upgradable? Why is this revolutionary, when 1/2 the features of HPA are not able to utilized within this system that costs more than a standard "drop in" from Polarstar and Wolverine?"
The whole project is not to replace HPA or AEG technology but to bring something else with a new gaming experience. It will be much smarter on the long run but it is too early to talk about it. At some point it was much more convenient to watch a DVD than YouTube. MTO is a smart concept that goes beyond pulling a trigger.
3. "Will there be anything at all free to adjust by the customer? Cycle rate, dwell time, burst/semi-only etc?"
Not at the early stage but it is scalable and Gen1 will give access to multiple features as they get ready
4. "Will the nozzles be changeable? like for ACR or SCAR-H? In Germany we need a special "f" marking on aeg's above 0,5 joule"
We will produce rifles for Germany that will meet local regulations
5. "What voltage, amperage, magnetic radiation? I'm thinking these are basically bb firing stun guns lol, how's the possibility of shock?"
No worries. We are so far away from any risk. That's an interesting topic though, so many "good" people will enjoy preventing airsoft gamers from risk cancer by keeping them away from MTO. To aniticipate any rumour, we will provide official testing to prove it safe. The Magnetic power is used to compress air, not as a propellant.
6. "Can it be disassembled, if so, is there a warranty voided? IF it break, who fixes it? Shipping from US to France will be problematic."
The rifle can be disassembled, not the MTO Box. If it breaks, you will be able to ship the box to France. We also plan to have our US operations by the end of 2016.
7. "Will there be MTO workshops in territories other than France? If not, will existing techs be able to be 'MTO certified' in order to carry out maintenance and repairs without voiding any warranties?"
Not in 2016 because we want to first set the first of production with direct contact with users. It is the reason why we do not want to run large production quantities, we set things properly first. We will have "MTO Certified" stores quick in 2017, many BO stores are obviously ready for that.
8. "Why is the single gearbox not buyable like comparable drop-in solutions (f.e. polarstar/wolverine/etc) and self-determined for the customer what he chooses to do with it?"
Why Tesla or BMW make cars? Both companies started by making engines. We have the same ambition in our field. We want to build a new shooting sport experience which includes a complete integration of features. Sure it is a different way than Wolverine or Polarstar, we wish them the best, we have a different project.
9. "What type of battery will be used? Will this be a proprietary battery or will standard lipo's be compatible?"
Today we say Lipo 11,1V but we want to offer a much larger choice. We can do it and it might be possible from Gen1. We will be able to advise on that topic by the end of May 2016.
11. "What are the REAL-WORLD lipo specs nessesary to fullfil the proclaimed one week of everyday gameplay advertised battery life and where is it planned to be located on the gun? (voltage, ampere capacity and especially discharge rate)"
See previous reply. By the end of May 2016, we will more concrete data for Gen1.
12. "How heavy/light will the complete gearbox be compared to regular stock AEG gearboxes?"
Pretty similar to AEG gearbox especially since we added the controlled magnetic nozzle
13. "What maintanance is nessesary after/during the advertised 1.000.000 million cycle guarantee?"
No maintenance needed. No deep sea activities is recommended though. The compression/nozzle block was tested over 3 million cycles (labo stress test). The key will be the electronic side. We take our time to validate each step. Once again, this a 2 years process, we can extend it to an extra 2-3 months if necessary.
14. "Which externals fit? Aeg-/ or Realsteel-parts?"
To make it simple, we used AEG M4 to start with. We have a pretty strong partnerhip with VFC and we agreed upon some of their standards which makes most VFC M4 compatible as we speak. We will also convert all BO rifles. We want to expand conversion to other AEG M4 platform too. Since the pistol grip is empty (no motor), RS parts can be used (adapted to AEG sizes).
Olipa pitkä lista. Aika hyvin vastasi ainakin mun mietteisiin. Tosin vähän epäillyttää tuo GEN1 -> GEN2 puhe.
